No lo apoyo. No todas esas salas timan, es más, si vas a fiables no acabarás timado... Yo he estado mucho tiempo en imperios y no he acabado timada.

btw... i don't know any other social network but habbo that disconnects users for inactivity... :P in order to maintain a certain user count it would be practical to only remove them out of rooms IF besides them being zzz for 30 (not 5) minutes the room is also at 90% of it's maximum usercount (which btw should simply be set to 300 or so, not 75 with hc or 50 without). and disconnect them from the hotel entirely? never. facebook doesn't terminate your session if you don't type anything, twitter doesn't, youtube doesn't, so why would habbo. at least they finally stopped closing the smaller hotels (nl/de) at night... but the rest of the 'logic' doesn't exactly help to grow habbo either. oh btw, just merging all hotels and simply keeping a 'preferred language' setting on rooms for navigator sorting and just having the different sites load the same client to the same hotel in different languages would help too. (Why run 10 or so different hotels which each can't keep their pants up financially, the only difference between habbo.com and habbo.es should be that the client software is in spanish and it 'prefers' rooms with language:es setting in navigator (but still can visit the other rooms with other language settings if specified in that same session ;) the database is all the same anyway, userid's haven't been integers for ages but hhes-uuid codes, so other than some duplicate usernames it can all simply be merged into a huge single hotel.

let's just say that besides having started cia, and later fbi (now ran by windas), and introduced the concept of agencies as a whole to habbo.es, i also have 3 50k group badges full of a former (we had to rename it due to trademark claims) mcdonalds, 2 50k group badges full of the prison, and some 30k users in a hospital badge. all with functioning-to-this-very-day rooms. none of which have seen any users ever since those 50+ salas publicas popped up. users simply go to club-nx and due to the videos punishing them for changing rooms, stay in club-nx. those people will never buy a single credit or furni. simple as that, and most likely, will never return to habbo after their first visit. (as let's just say, club-nx isn't all that exciting compared to call of duty ;)

time for habbo to stop scaring away users with random rediculously long bans, and advertisement videos, and start bothering trying to get a few million users they had in the past back. also the average age isn't exactly what habbo thinks it is. as for agencies: most people are well over 20 and can well do without the 'bobba' filter. security is NOT making sure they don't say any 'bad words' (most of them are well old enough to join the real army ;). security is making sure their virtual property is secure by not banning them for idiotic reasons and for idiotic times. clearly habbo doesn't even know the age of their actual users. so far for their marketing research.

as for the cashflow in agencies: it works like this.
people get recruited, start working to recruit other people and get paid for it, they can always just get any rank without paying anything.
some people just want a high rank -now-. they pay. that money is being used to expand the agency (furni, rooms, etc), pay the hc for the administrators (as they need hc to manage groups) and pay the agents.
for most working-for-the-money agents, getting paid in an agency is their first experience with habbo credits, in many cases even with the trade screen. (quite a few have to be talked through ciudadano habbo, click accept twice, etc or they can't even get paid as they've never seen a credito before ;)

as for the 'agencies are the only thing left that has users' - yes. agencies are also the only thing that causes their users to keep coming back pretty much every single day for years on end. they create a binding with habbo that no other room concept has. as for the smaller hotels (nl/de), agencies are the only thing that cause them to still be open (without agencies they simply would have less than 10 users by now on the entire hotel ;)

let's just say, we demand prominent positions on the front page of navigador :P lol. (nah... but do remove the crappy advertisement videos ;)

it's a shame really... habbo should have -billions- of simultanios users. banning them for maximum 1 day would be a start... we once ran some statistics on our vip group, out of 850 users, 300 or so were permbanned after a year (and no, agency vip badges are not given out to noobs that shout obsceneties in clubnx - all with decent scores). not exactly how you grow your userbase. and then blaming it on the 'retros' that usually just have 10 users lol. you also don't grow your userbase by showing them an advertisement for some 'kings and castles' game with a big 'click to play' button all over the screen during the loading of habbo ;) i bet most of the people thought they had to click that to load habbo and ended up in the other game. and you don't make money by competing with your own paying customers with a load of 'salas publicas' that don't bring any cash to anyone. not to habbo, not to the users.

Yo ha introducer el concepto de agencias en habbo ES/MX. y en este momento, los agencias son las salas unicos que todavia tener usarios. habbo es muerte y los noobs no va a tus salas privadas (mcdonalds, adopta bebe, usw) sin factor de juego (como agencias y otro trabajos que pagan y tienen sus proprios factor de juego y sus proprios publica - sin depencia a los usarios neuvo de habbo).

eso es por que los noobs sin hc tiene 50 salas publicas de sulake en navigador a pagina 1 y no dejan esos salas, ademas, usarios neuvos sin hc tiene videos irritante, que advertieren otro juegos muchos vezes, cada vez si cambian salas.

por eso, tus salas privadas como mcdonalds no tiene usarios, y los noobs mantienen en 'club nx' y otro salas.

mejor sulake borrar los videos advertencias y borrar los 49 de 50 salas publicas por usarios que estan en salas publicas no compran furni. y las salas publicas no tienen un anfinitron quien comprar furni tambien.

en momento, son las agencias y ejercitos que todavia solemente pagan por todo sulake. deserven un posicion mas prominente en navigador que 'club nx' que no pagan por nada. ademas son las agencias y ejercitos que introducer usarios nuevos a 'creditos' y en muchos casos daren las primeras creditos a noobs como paga. ('club nx' y 'el cafeteria' no hacen eso) usarios que estan solamente en salas publicas no participan en el economia de juego, no causan otro usarios de crear salas privadas y por eso causan vende de furnis nuevos y creditos, y no compre furni por sus proprio salas.

not sure how to say this in spanish.. but habbo.de tried to close down lennard10total's CIA. turned out it was the only thing that still kept habbo.de from going bankrupt so they quickly reversed that mistake. :P

- you don't get more users by banning them for 10 years for bullshit reasons
- you don't get more users by showing them advertisements for other games every time they load the game or change rooms
- you don't get more profit by competing with your own users and running 50+ public rooms for which nobody ever bought any furni and nobody in those rooms is encited to make their own rooms, they only slurp up users that should be in rooms owned and operated by paying customers. (why build rooms if all the users are in clubnx).

there have been days that cia had 2 bases full of users all day long, as well as the prison, and mcdonalds. rooms without a game factor, no longer work. agencies still work, they have their -own- userbase that keeps coming back (people that otherwise would not return to habbo mostly). places like 'mcdonalds' relied on users that are now all slurped up by clubnx and the cafetaria and are punished with stupid advertisement videos every time if they click rooms, even worse, those videos are for OTHER GAMES. if they click 'click to play' on them they end up not on habbo but playing some castle game or angry birds (not exactly where you'd want the users to go ay, bad business management ;)

furthermore, habbo keeps thinking 'retros' would be their 'competitors'. partially they're right. if you ban people for 10 years for bullshit reasons obviously they start their own hotels, but the real competition is playstation 4, clash of clans, and minecraft. and habbo actually is stupid enough to show advertisement videos for -competitors- taking their users. (would you rather sell a user 3000 euros worth of credits over 10 years time or would you rather annoy him with a video which if he clicks it brings habbo 10 cents at most, and causes him to give those 3000 euros to another game company ;) - very very bad management.

to bring habbo back to life, just -unban- everyone ever banned send them all a mail inviting them back in, remove the stupid advertisment videos, start an online shop where you can order advertisement campaigns which put your company logo on furni to be given out for free to any user that logs in on the specified timeperiod (furni lasts forever, videos only last for xx seconds - it can be a lot more expensive than some shitty video campaign - plus it can be fully automated to order an advertisement campaign with your own branded furni ;) much like the calippo and mountain dew stuff.

until the day the noobs are not scared away with stupid videos, rooms that target noobs, will simply, remain empty. and there is no need to buy furni to make any new ones, as all the noobs that make it through the crappy videos never leave clubnx anyway.

Pues los imperios y esas salas, en mi opinión, es lo que hacen a algunos usuarios nuevos quedarse en Habbo, ya que no todos tienen o pueden canjear dinero real por comprar créditos, o símplemente no saben.

Pues en algo tienes razon Luu. no todas timan, pero es algo deprimente y aburrido ver que todas las salas que han conformado habb o estan desapareciendo, todos los habbos solo se acomuland ahi en estas salas :(

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